What is strong?
We live in a world filled with 1000 pound squat and 800 pound bench press Youtube videos. Kind of makes you feel weak, doesn’t it? It sure makes me feel weak.
There are a couple of key things you need to know about most of these lifts.
1000 Pound Squats and 800 Pound Bench Presses?
How are these guys able to move Herculean amounts of weight? Here are 2 major reasons.
#1 – Training Gear. The guys putting up these monster numbers are for the most part using training gear. What is training gear? Training gear includes the use of specialized squat suits and bench shirts that are designed to help powerlifters add hundreds of pounds to each lift.
So when you see a guy benching close to 800 pounds with a bench shirt on, there’s a good chance he “only” benches 500 without a bench shirt. The same goes for squats suits.
A squat of over 700 without a squat suit is fairly rare. Add in a squat suit, along with knee wraps and squat briefs, which go under a squat suit to help move even more weight, and these guys are squatting over 1000 pounds.
Training gear is not magical though. It requires an amazing amount of dedication and practice, and few can master it.
#2 – Drugs. Another factor adding to these monster totals is an obvious one – steroid and human growth hormone usage. Now it is certainly not my intention to label everyone with a big lift as a drug user.
I’ve seen some pretty staggering natural lifts in my day. With that said, drug use is fairly common in the sport of powerlifting, and I’m not going to lie to you and pretend it’s not.
There are some natural-only federations. Outside of this realm, your guess is as good as mine as to who is clean and who isn’t.
Anti-Gear, Anti-Steroids?
Before we move on any further, I want to make something very clear. The point of this article isn’t to bash lifters who use training gear or drugs.
This article exists to provide natural and raw strength standards to lifters who will never use either. Period, end of story.
I respect the iron, and the men and women who move it, and am not here to judge or stir up debates.
Raw, Natural Strength Standards
Let’s dive into the topic of raw, natural strength standards by analyzing the national records of several drug-free powerlifting federations. Some of these federations are large, and some modest in size.
- USAPL
- 100% Raw
- NASA
- ADFPF
- UPA-AD
These numbers will give you somewhat of a reasonable look at “elite” strength levels. They are not meant to be elite standards in and of themselves.
I will make an attempt to define my opinion of elite standards later on.
| Squats | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Raw Records for Men | |||||
| Weight Class | USAPL | 100% Raw | NASA | ADFPF | UPA-AD |
| 132 | 479.50 | 530.90 | 275.58 | 247.50 | None |
| 148 | 473.75 | 550.90 | 473.99 | 445.50 | 220 |
| 165 | 534.50 | 530 | 512.57 | 447.70 | 529 |
| 181 | 562 | 601.10 | 540.13 | 500.50 | 529 |
| 198 | 573 | 610 | 644.85 | 550 | 600 |
| 220 | 650.25 | 650.30 | 699.96 | 583 | 633 |
| 242 | 705.25 | 700.70 | 650.36 | 621.50 | 705 |
| 275 | 766 | 850 | 755.08 | 599.50 | 640 |
| 308 | 854.25 | 826.70 | 766.10 | 599.50 | 704 |
| Bench Press | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Raw Records for Men | |||||
| Weight Class | USAPL | 100% Raw | NASA | ADFPF | UPA-AD |
| 132 | 314 | 330.40 | 231.48 | 187 | None |
| 148 | 337.25 | 360.40 | 294.31 | 302.50 | 165 |
| 165 | 402.25 | 400 | 363.76 | 374 | 314 |
| 181 | 385.75 | 385 | 363.76 | 385 | 364 |
| 198 | 443 | 425 | 418.87 | 374 | 412 |
| 220 | 523.50 | 490 | 451.94 | 423.50 | 425 |
| 242 | 462.75 | 485.60 | 415.57 | 451 | 457 |
| 275 | 501.50 | 585 | 507.06 | 511.50 | 440 |
| 308 | 546.50 | 520 | 476.19 | 484 | 501 |
| Deadlifts | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Raw Records for Men | |||||
| Weight Class | USAPL | 100% Raw | NASA | ADFPF | UPA-AD |
| 132 | 578.50 | 450 | 358.25 | 341 | None |
| 148 | 523.50 | 540 | 567.68 | 473 | 353 |
| 165 | 661.25 | 630 | 567.68 | 535.70 | 567 |
| 181 | 677.75 | 641.10 | 617.29 | 638 | 600 |
| 198 | 706.50 | 661.30 | 661.38 | 671 | 630 |
| 220 | 727.50 | 672.40 | 677.91 | 654.50 | 677 |
| 242 | 699.75 | 760.50 | 722.01 | 704 | 645 |
| 275 | 832.00 | 800 | 705.47 | 632.50 | 650 |
| 308 | 843.25 | 760.50 | 810.19 | 665.50 | 744 |
So, what do these numbers tell us? The first thing I noticed is that the following lifts are extremely hard to achieve:
- Squat – 600 pounds
- Bench Press – 400 pounds
- Deadlift – 650 pounds
It’s safe to say that if you hit these numbers, you’re well into Elite territory for a raw, natural lifter. It should also be noted that it is darn near impossible to hit a 2000 raw, natural powerlifting total. Only a small handful of natural lifters have performed this amazing feat.
The lifting standards I am about to present are merely guidelines. Use them to assess your progress, and potential for future gains.
Don’t be discouraged by the numbers of the top one percent of lifters. You can make amazing strides forward without having the best genetics, so remain patient and train smart. If you do so you will exceed your expectations.
Before I move forward, here are some simple definitions for standards names.
- Pro Strength – The very best of the best. Superhuman. Supreme strength.
- Elite Strength – You should be extremely competitive at a National level powerlifting meet.
- Extremely Strong – You will be one of the top lifters at most local, natural powerlifting meets. Your strength levels land you in the top 1% of humanity.
- Very Strong – In the muscle building and strength training realm, this would be considered intermediate level strength.
- Strong – Your lifts are around a 200 raw bench, 300 raw squat and 400 raw deadlift. This doesn’t seem strong compared to powerlifting records, but you are still stronger than 90% of men walking the earth.
Raw Natural Strength Standards Based On Weight – Men
| Pro Natural Raw Strength Standards | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Men – By Weight | |||
| Weight | Squats | Bench | Deadlifts |
| 132 | 430 | 270 | 440 |
| 148 | 460 | 300 | 470 |
| 165 | 500 | 330 | 540 |
| 181 | 540 | 350 | 580 |
| 198 | 570 | 380 | 610 |
| 220 | 610 | 410 | 640 |
| 242 | 640 | 430 | 660 |
| 275 | 670 | 450 | 680 |
| 308 | 700 | 470 | 700 |
| Elite Natural Raw Strength Standards | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Men – By Weight | |||
| Weight | Squats | Bench | Deadlifts |
| 132 | 400 | 250 | 410 |
| 148 | 425 | 280 | 435 |
| 165 | 465 | 305 | 500 |
| 181 | 500 | 325 | 535 |
| 198 | 530 | 350 | 565 |
| 220 | 565 | 380 | 595 |
| 242 | 595 | 400 | 610 |
| 275 | 620 | 420 | 630 |
| 308 | 650 | 435 | 650 |
| Extremely Strong Natural Raw Strength Standards | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Men – By Weight | |||
| Weight | Squats | Bench | Deadlifts |
| 132 | 325 | 205 | 330 |
| 148 | 345 | 225 | 355 |
| 165 | 375 | 250 | 405 |
| 181 | 405 | 265 | 435 |
| 198 | 430 | 285 | 460 |
| 220 | 460 | 310 | 480 |
| 242 | 480 | 325 | 495 |
| 275 | 505 | 340 | 510 |
| 308 | 525 | 355 | 525 |
| Very Strong Natural Raw Strength Standards | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Men – By Weight | |||
| Weight | Squats | Bench | Deadlifts |
| 132 | 290 | 185 | 300 |
| 148 | 310 | 210 | 320 |
| 165 | 340 | 225 | 365 |
| 181 | 365 | 240 | 395 |
| 198 | 385 | 260 | 415 |
| 220 | 415 | 280 | 435 |
| 242 | 435 | 290 | 445 |
| 275 | 455 | 305 | 460 |
| 308 | 475 | 320 | 475 |
| Strong Natural Raw Strength Standards | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Men – By Weight | |||
| Weight | Squats | Bench | Deadlifts |
| 132 | 250 | 155 | 255 |
| 148 | 265 | 175 | 270 |
| 165 | 290 | 190 | 310 |
| 181 | 310 | 205 | 335 |
| 198 | 330 | 220 | 350 |
| 220 | 350 | 235 | 370 |
| 242 | 370 | 250 | 380 |
| 275 | 385 | 260 | 390 |
| 308 | 405 | 270 | 405 |
I used the following multipliers to determine these numbers:
- Elite = Pro x 92.5%
- Extremely Strong = Pro x 75%
- Very Strong = Pro x 67.5%
- Strong = Pro x 57.5%
The Last Word on Natural Strength
Most of you aren’t competitive powerlifters, nor do most of you have the goal of weighing 270 pounds or more. So with that in mind, I want to end by presenting you with an easy set of natural strength standards to remember.
The following goals are perfect for the lifter who wants to get big and strong, but who may never have any interesting in competing in bodybuilding or powerlifting. Reach these goals while focusing on conventional hypertrophy (muscle building) rep ranges, and you will not only add muscle to your frame, but also have the power and strength to back it up.
- Bench Press – 300 pounds
- Squats – 400 pounds
- Deadlift – 500 pounds
- Power Clean – 225 pounds
- Overhead Press – 225 pounds
- Barbell Row – 300 Pounds
There have been fewer than 85 men who have ever hit a 2000 raw powerlifting total. Of these men, only a very small handful accomplished this feat while competing in major drug-tested federations. I hope this helps put powerlifting numbers in perspective.
The use of bench shirts, squat suits, steroids and growth hormone has made it difficult for most natural athletes to understand just what strong means. I see far too many strong forum lifters refer to themselves as weak, simply because they do not understand what reasonable natural standards are.
They talk themselves out of competitive powerlifting because of a misguided vision that everyone is putting up 2000 pound totals. Not true at all.
A 1200 pound 3-lift total (bench press, squats and deadlifts) is more than 95% of gym rats will ever accomplish. A 1500 pound 3-lift total is a huge accomplishment, and will be hard to beat at most local, natural powerlifting meets.
For those of you who are doubting this, let me leave you with some numbers from my first powerlifting experience.
In 2011 I competed at a local ADFPF meet. This was my first competition and I had no idea what to expect. I certainly had no clue that I would be the strongest lifter at the meet.
My 3-lift total was 1501 that day. The second best total was approximately 200 pounds below this level.
This reveals that a 1300-1500 pound total at most local, raw and natural powerlifting meets is fairly impressive. Those that achieve these levels usually move on to national-level competitions.
I currently hold 2 national-level deadlifting records, one in the ADFPF, and one in the UPA. Certainly not a legendary achievement (far from it), but my records do provide further evidence that a 1500-1600 pound total is noteworthy in the natural lifting world.
Did this article help? Let me know in the comments. I would also like to know where your strength levels currently are, and what natural goals you are after.
Good luck, and smash PRs!
Great to have those perspectives. It did make me rethink some of my standards. My current coach says that for me to reach the level of “weak” I still need to get strong, but I know he’s joking.
I have a 181kg bench max for 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEDrbnfytRQ&list=UUOYbM_-PDnmNnQ45z1GuxAA&index=20)
600lbs squat. Most I ever pulled off the floor was 400lbs, if that. Never really do dead lifts. 106kg snatch for 1 or 100kg for two off the floor and 160kg power clean.
Thanks for the post!
Those are real impressive numbers. Well done.
Maybe I should note I’m not a lifter, I’m a discus thrower and lift to help get better in my event. Thanks!
Well you have a future in lifting if you ever go that way. I can only imagine how much that strength helps your performance.
I have throught about it, as well as olympic weight lifting. I’ll probably find my way to something like that eventually. Guess I’d have to see where I’d start.
Good article. For myself, it helped put things into a realistic perspective.
Nice and very informative read …
Thanks men.
Awesome article! Exactly about things I wonder about.
How long on average does it take for a committed lifter to get up to each level? I would think:
strong – about a year?
Very strong – about 2?
Extreme – about 3-4?
Elite -5?
Pro – 5+ and good luck in the gene pool?
Thanks!
Hi Mike,
Sharing my experience first…I started small-boned, skinny fat and weak at the age of 18. I was a sloppy 155 pounds with no bench strength at all.
After 2 years I was benching 275 for reps, squatting 365ish, and I wasn’t deadlifting. 10 years later I was benching over 400, and squatting 500. Granted, life got in the way sometimes for me between years 2 and 10, but I think it does for most of us at some point.
My opinion from what I have seen over the years is this…
Most lifters should be over a 200 bench, 300 squat and 400 deadlift after their first 12-18 months of hard training. By hard, I mean focused – not missing workouts, eating a reasonable diet, using wise programming, etc.
Some may call these “low” standards, and some might even call them “high” standards. I think they are reasonable goals for the average lifter.
For “very strong” I would say add another year. So 24-30 months total. “Extremely strong” perhaps up to 5 years. Beyond that, it comes down to injuries, luck, fate, genetics, dedication, luck, fate, life, etc.
I love this! Cracking article. At last, people have realistic standards to aspire to and can chalk off each one as they go.
@ Carlos, I’d say you could deadlift some pretty hefty weight if you went for it. A 600 squat is fantastic by anyone’s standards! A 400 or so bench is fine stuff too and a 350 power clean!
Thanks Kuyt!
Thanks Kuytrider. I just don’t usually do deadlifts because I’m a tall guy and so I have somewhat of a disadvantage, and from not doing them (probably, or maybe other things) my lower back isn’t as strong as it should be so I keep avoiding them – probably making the problem worse.
Awesome, unbiased info! Thanx!
Thanks Pete.
Nice work cheeso! Ill meet ya there some day!